First conversation (3 mins.): Use the conversation ideas and overcome a common objection in your territory (th lec. 3).
PUBLISHER: Good morning, are you next in line?
HOUSEHOLDER: Yes, I am. I'm Rubén, you can sit here next to me.
PUBLISHER: Thanks Rubén. My name is Alberto. Excuse me, it is that today it is not known whether to maintain a social distance due to Covid, whether or not to wear the mask... with everything that is happening...
HOUSEHOLDER: The truth is that yes, and have you seen the monkeypox thing now? If it is that it is to leave one, to enter another... and well, that of leaving in quotes because the Covid is still there no matter how vaccinated we are...
PUBLISHER: You are absolutely right, Rubén… we live in difficult times… we are having a hard time… why do you think all this is happening to us?
HOUSEHOLDER: Well, look, I don't know... I don't believe in destiny or anything like that... but it seems that they are doing it to us on purpose... economic crisis, covid, war in Ukraine, a new smallpox... if I don't know anything anymore …
PUBLISHER: I don't believe in destiny either, but I do believe in God...
HOUSEHOLDER: And isn't He the one who is putting us through this?
PUBLISHER: Not at all, do you believe that suffering comes from God, that he punishes us or puts us to the test?
HOUSEHOLDER: Well, I wouldn't rule it out... for ignoring him or not believing in Him, he's making us go through all this...
PUBLISHER: Do you, Rubén, believe in God?
HOUSEHOLDER: Sometimes, there are moments in my life that I have believed more and other moments less.
PUBLISHER: Well, look Rubén… I want to show you through the Bible itself that it is not God who is doing all this to us… And for that, I am going to read you James 1:13 if you allow me… look at what it says: «That Let no one say during a trial, "God is testing me. Because, with bad things, no one can test God and he does not test anyone.
HOUSEHOLDER: And then Alberto, how can we explain all this? fruit of chance? Well, what a tragic coincidence... I don't know if before in history tragedies have been seen as often as the ones we are experiencing...
PUBLISHER: The Bible also gives an explanation for what is happening today, but before Rubén… for you, what is God?
HOUSEHOLDER: I don't know, I had him as an image of a father... in the end it's what they teach you as a little boy... which is good and all that... but look, no matter how many tragedies I go through, I see that he's not interested in me...
PUBLISHER: Wow, I understand your opinion…
HOUSEHOLDER: I don't know Alberto... if he exists or existed at some point, he has abandoned us...
PUBLISHER: Let me give you a situation… when we become independent from our parents, and get married and have a family, etc, etc… don't we go through difficulties?
HOUSEHOLDER: Yes, there are always problems... but you have to overcome them, there is no other way.
PUBLISHER: Do you go to your parents for help?
HOUSEHOLDER: The truth is that I don't usually do it, no.
PUBLISHER: But are they there if you need them? Even though they seem to be in the distance?
HOUSEHOLDER: Man, of course, they're still my parents.
PUBLISHER: God, as a heavenly father, have you sought him out to ask him for help with everything we are going through?
HOUSEHOLDER: Mmmm well, not much really… I wouldn't know how to do it either…
PUBLISHER: Sure… but even if you don't do it or don't know how… He is there, waiting for you to look for him and ask for his help… Do you know why the Bible says that we suffer? How about we see him the next day when it's your turn?
HOUSEHOLDER: Okay, you've made me think... I'll leave you my number and you call me...
PUBLISHER: Perfect, Rubén.
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